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JOELwindows7
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VMS 2.5.0 XG Drumkit error, This note A1 plays wrong sound
by JOELwindows7 » 12 Lug 2018 - 11:07

Let's say I have this .sf2:

Omega GM GS 2 Soundfont

With this Virtual MIDI Synth 2.5.0, recently released. I am going to use the soundfont with this system.

Now let's test the MIDI with the setup above. The software I use is MIDITester from the creator of Sekaiju, OpenMIDIProject.

Now I use XG reset. Press the XG reset button on top left.

Use any XG drum. I will use e.g. 127:0 24-ElektrKit

Press note A1, 3 Octave bellow Middle C, Before LowKickdrum, After Soft march drum, Originally Metronome Click in Standard Kit.

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Okay, now there is error, where supposedly it sounds One of the electronic drum.

But what I got is other fallback of Metronome Click from Roland that used as a fallback. Note that the click sound is that Roland's instead of Analog Clap.

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I think My laptop is broken. I tried different settings, playtest again, change again, all over again.

Nothing changed. Then I have an idea...

I tried to Downgrade VirtualMIDISynth to previous version, 2.4.1 and tried the same setup above and guess what?

The note A1 plays that Low Electronic KickDrum instead of Fallback Metronome Sound!!! What?!?!

That is why I have to report this bug. It is not comfortable to have an XG MIDI I enjoy, plays incorrect note sound all the time.

Is it just me:

  • Computer: ASUS ROG GL503GE, Released in 2018
  • OS: Windows 10 Home Single Language
  • RAM: 8GB
  • CPU: Intel i7-8750H, Intel Core i7 8th gen with 6 cores

Or is this affects everyone?

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JOELwindows7
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Re: VMS 2.5.0 XG Drumkit error, This note A1 plays wrong sound
by JOELwindows7 » 12 Lug 2018 - 11:30

EDIT: The Option of Use Bank 127 for XG drumkit may be Bugged!

I discovered where is that option above.

You double click the soundfont (in VMS configuration, tab Soundfont) and see that option.

Untick the option so it will not load bank 127 when XG Drumkit. Making it stay loading at 128 instead.

Is the soundfont bugged? I don't know. Maybe, it is the software bug! I mean this VMS 2.5.0 may be bugged in this section... idk.

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cosibello
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Re: VMS 2.5.0 XG Drumkit error, This note A1 plays wrong sound
by cosibello » 12 Lug 2018 - 16:13

Salve, sto usando Coolsoft VirtualMidiSynth v2.5.0, ho notata che a volte sparisce l'icona per configurare VirtualMidiSynth, ho provato a lanciare una base midi con vanBasco's e ricompare il configuratore di VirtualMidiSynth tutto ok!

oggi 12-07-2018 ho rifatto la stessa operazione VirtualMidiSynth non è comparso, non era presente ne in Vanbasco's e neanche nelle icone nascoste, ho dovuto reinbstallare il Software.

Come mai sparisce, c'è una spiegazione, posso fare qualcosa per ovviare a questo inconveniente. Grazie

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coolsoft
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Re: VMS 2.5.0 XG Drumkit error, This note A1 plays wrong sound
by coolsoft » 12 Lug 2018 - 16:18
cosibello wrote:
Salve, sto usando Coolsoft VirtualMidiSynth v2.5.0, ho notata che a volte sparisce l'icona per configurare VirtualMidiSynth
Non mischiamo i thread, ne apra uno nuovo dedicato al problema...

coolsoft
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Re: VMS 2.5.0 XG Drumkit error, This note A1 plays wrong sound
by coolsoft » 12 Lug 2018 - 16:20
JOELwindows7 wrote:
The Option of Use Bank 127 for XG drumkit may be Bugged!

Please have a look to this thread:
https://coolsoft.altervista.org/forum/thread/646

Let's go on there discussing about this possible bug.

falcosoft
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Re: VMS 2.5.0 XG Drumkit error, This note A1 plays wrong sound
by falcosoft » 13 Lug 2018 - 01:16

@JOELwindows7:

The 'bug' is in the SF2 file. It has XG compatible drum set at bank 128 and GS compatible drum sets at bank 127...

So these drum banks are actually in reversed order compared to convention.Even if we do not consider 'XG compatible' sondfonts as standard this soundfont always plays wrong drumsets even on hardawre synths from Creative (SB live, Audigy, X-Fi) that are alway in GM/GS mode natively. You can also try to send a GM/GS reset instead of XG and you will hear that even with the old version of VMS (as well any other soundfont engine) will play the wrong XG drumsets in GM/GS mode with this soundfont.

@Claudio:

You were right, we did not have to wait long until such 'bug reports' arrived :). I could not believe such flawed logic soundfonts exists. This kind of drum bank arrangement does not have any sense...

Maybe the heuristic algorithm should be modified:

If lowercase(bank 127 : preset 0) contains string "standard" and lowercase(bank 127 : preset 8) contains string "room"

and none of them contains "GS"

then use the BASS_MIDI_FONT_XGDRUMS flag

JOELwindows7
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Re: VMS 2.5.0 XG Drumkit error, This note A1 plays wrong sound
by JOELwindows7 » 13 Lug 2018 - 08:06
falcosoft wrote:

@JOELwindows7:

The 'bug' is in the SF2 file. It has XG compatible drum set at bank 128 and GS compatible drum sets at bank 127...

Thanks alot for your information. what a shame an sf2 file has the arrangement flips. should I edit the sf2 file? hmm, it may cause compatibility I think.

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Re: VMS 2.5.0 XG Drumkit error, This note A1 plays wrong sound
by coolsoft » 13 Lug 2018 - 08:50
falcosoft wrote:
@Claudio: You were right, we did not have to wait long until such 'bug reports' arrived :).

;-)

falcosoft wrote:
Maybe the heuristic algorithm should be modified: If lowercase(bank 127 : preset 0) contains string "standard" and lowercase(bank 127 : preset 8) contains string "room" and none of them contains "GS" then use the BASS_MIDI_FONT_XGDRUMS flag

Will change it but, being it heuristic, its mileage may vary a lot ;)

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